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I can see how my choice of words was a bit confused.
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Posted by thizness on 2012-07-24 16:55:24

In Reply to: Pardon me but "there is nothing false about the staging of solidarity" sounds like a big posted by Cohan sold the Dubz! on 2012-07-24 11:00:03

What I meant was that perhaps never more than in the moment of delivering punishment do members of society reaffirm their solidarity. They do this by delineating social boundaries, more exactly by defining who has fallen outside of them. The implicit and more powerful function here is to say who still belongs.

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I'm pretty ambivalent on the death penalty, but this guy should get it, no? - buzz 2012-07-23 20:13:18 (151 views)

given what we know about this guy, it seems he is banking on a very long trial/appeals process - Max 2012-07-24 12:23:27 (69 views)

This guy is completely and utterly digusting. - nate 2012-07-24 11:46:34 (87 views)

If a person who's against the death penalty can ever say that in a certain case they're OK with it, - BackseatGM 2012-07-24 11:01:58 (110 views)

Good point - thizness 2012-07-24 17:06:33 (57 views)

If you're really serious about non-violence you aren't going to have a lot of company. - Dick Nikon 2012-07-24 11:50:51 (67 views)

I didn't say anything about non-violence. I'd be more than willing to go to whatever level of - BackseatGM 2012-07-24 14:15:35 (86 views)

Gotcha. I misunderstood. - Dick Nikon 2012-07-24 15:21:34 (60 views)

+1 - live 2012-07-24 11:46:17 (79 views)

it's never that simple... it will cost way more than just simply incarcerating him for life. - shikantaza 2012-07-24 10:29:16 (82 views)

the guy is completely out of his mind. - Lefty 2012-07-24 08:33:06 (66 views)

But there enough to have planned this whole thing out meticulously - buzz 2012-07-24 14:35:06 (68 views)

focusing on the details of the worst crimes is standard cheap rhetoric - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-07-24 00:02:24 (92 views)

Wrong to say that it has been rejected by other cultures similar to our own. - thizness 2012-07-24 08:38:21 (81 views)

Canada, Mexico, Western Europe and Australia have all dumped it - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-07-24 17:02:26 (65 views)

You're missing my point. - thizness 2012-07-24 17:52:53 (59 views)

your point converts racial animosity into "democracy" - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-07-24 20:08:56 (59 views)

It is dangerous to assume that a just society will emerge from democracy alone. - thizness 2012-07-24 22:56:14 (65 views)

I assume that racism and illiteracy will be catered to by the GOP - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-07-25 00:21:12 (53 views)

Yeah, whatever... more complicated than that for me - buzz 2012-07-24 01:04:13 (94 views)

that "worst of the worst" idea crumbles immediately in practice - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-07-24 20:15:44 (65 views)

Right on... but this guy? - buzz 2012-07-25 01:23:28 (57 views)

He is not a member of the human race,by his choice. Thus...a varmit,like a rat,a coyote. - rem rehab 2012-07-23 23:11:27 (93 views)

Dude, righteous! What song do you hear in your head when you think that? - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 23:16:00 (73 views)

The Stone's classic Gimme Shelter was written in the wake of mass murders back then. - rem rehab 2012-07-23 23:39:40 (91 views)

Insofar as the death penalty ultimately serves as a symbolic expression - thizness 2012-07-23 22:55:56 (132 views)

After looking up the definition of expiation, I agree, lol - nate 2012-07-24 11:54:50 (76 views)

How about bin Laden? - buzz 2012-07-24 00:52:39 (92 views)

Yeah I'm not in love with his assassination and I'll admit - thizness 2012-07-24 09:00:17 (87 views)

I am a little put off that they assassinated him instead of capture - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-24 07:17:45 (83 views)

So unique situations exist? - buzz 2012-07-24 11:53:42 (68 views)

Your first reasonable take would be an example of one. - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-24 18:12:12 (67 views)

YOUR FACE is unreasonable - buzz 2012-07-24 23:31:56 (57 views)

+1 - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 22:58:57 (101 views)

Re: +1 - thizness 2012-07-23 23:13:54 (100 views)

Do you and David Garland think that society believes it's symbolic? - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 23:23:22 (97 views)

I suspect that Garland would say something like symbols lose - thizness 2012-07-23 23:32:09 (86 views)

So, if society realized they were worshipping a false idol they would back - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 23:48:07 (79 views)

It's not so much a false idol that people worship in the death penalty - thizness 2012-07-24 00:31:43 (73 views)

Pardon me but "there is nothing false about the staging of solidarity" sounds like a big - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-24 11:00:03 (76 views)

I can see how my choice of words was a bit confused. - thizness 2012-07-24 16:55:24 (61 views)

But you raise an interesting point- - thizness 2012-07-23 23:38:31 (89 views)

Yeow, just what I was thinking about below. - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 23:50:33 (75 views)

well said, agree. - playmaker 2012-07-23 22:57:34 (73 views)

+1 - nomad 2012-07-23 23:04:04 (75 views)

I'm just pissed they arrested him like that - dc 2012-07-23 22:27:21 (104 views)

So, for economic reasons we should screw the justice system - nate 2012-07-24 11:52:50 (72 views)

Did you miss the part where he had full body armor, ballistic helmet, and neck guard? - bongo 2012-07-24 11:50:35 (75 views)

Everybody's horrified by what he did but they would do the same to him? - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 22:41:30 (96 views)

He was not shooting a theatre full of malevolent psycho killers. - rem rehab 2012-07-23 23:49:46 (88 views)

Waste of money and time - Hoser 2012-07-23 21:18:40 (109 views)

Any time and money spent on this dude is wasted from this point forward - buzz 2012-07-23 22:07:20 (102 views)

Still cheaper than death penalty - Hoser 2012-07-23 22:17:34 (90 views)

Only because we make it that way - buzz 2012-07-24 00:51:52 (77 views)

No, it's so stupidly expensive and sometimes fatally wrong to pursue that end. - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 20:56:32 (107 views)

You think they got the wrong guy? - buzz 2012-07-23 22:06:34 (94 views)

As a policy in general, the death penalty should be abolished, imo. - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 22:11:18 (100 views)

I don't care if it's a deterrent or not. Fuck this guy. - Flashfire 2012-07-23 21:10:05 (80 views)

One minute it's clearly a mental health issue, next it's not. - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 21:17:09 (109 views)

Stop being a pussy.. - Captain Hindsight 2012-07-23 21:44:09 (89 views)

If someone kills him, it would make sense. But, I have no need to kill him myself (via death plty) - nate 2012-07-24 11:49:01 (66 views)

Oh, OK. "All I can do"? "Emo" is polite for fuckin stupid, actually. - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 21:50:21 (90 views)

Dude, every one of your posts is premised around complainig, about others who are complaining. - Captain Hindsight 2012-07-23 21:57:02 (93 views)

No, disputing others who are complaining. You called me a pussy, remember? - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 22:07:26 (105 views)

That's the second time you've compared me to this guy. - Captain Hindsight 2012-07-23 22:20:46 (94 views)

Both pro murder? - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 22:24:39 (83 views)

He planned and executed a mass murder. I don't care what happens to him. You've got to be - Captain Hindsight 2012-07-23 22:27:51 (89 views)

I understand your POV, I just don't agree with it. In fact, I think it's morally wrong. - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 22:33:28 (93 views)

Of course. He and the Giffords shooter. - gsw_hoops 2012-07-23 20:53:19 (84 views)

I am way more prone to let that other dude do the insanity defense - buzz 2012-07-23 22:15:08 (103 views)

Wait a minute! Even though he shot a progressive? - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-07-23 20:59:15 (93 views)

I'm usually not one for the death penalty either. - Captain Hindsight 2012-07-23 20:51:41 (90 views)

+1 - Thelonious Dunk 2012-07-23 20:15:50 (100 views)

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