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After Nader cost the presidency, there can't ever be a challenge from the left
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Posted by Dick Nikon on 2012-06-20 01:16:16

In Reply to: Obama's message to his constituency: "You have no place else to go" posted by CARTIERFROHAWK on 2012-06-19 18:27:40

to the corporatist Democrats. We're reminded of that over and over, it seems.

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That oft-repeated line that the Dems got killed in the 2010 election because they swung too far left - BackseatGM 2012-06-19 14:13:59 (103 views)

Obama's message to his constituency: "You have no place else to go" - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-06-19 18:27:40 (36 views)

After Nader cost the presidency, there can't ever be a challenge from the left - Dick Nikon 2012-06-20 01:16:16 (60 views)

yes, and given that, what is your best strategy for helping the world? - DC Warrior 2012-06-20 06:14:03 (38 views)

Yay Obama and all, but his delight at sandbagging the left.... - altamont 2012-06-19 18:34:41 (60 views)

shouldn't be a surprise though, right? he basically wrote a book saying exactly that - dude 2012-06-19 22:27:05 (62 views)

it's the basis of democracy, IMO - buzz 2012-06-20 21:52:29 (29 views)

The basis of democracy is eliminating 80% of the ideas? - altamont 2012-06-21 07:29:27 (26 views)

sounds about right. The Founders designed our system to prevent change from happening too quickly - DC Warrior 2012-06-21 13:49:19 (34 views)

For one, there are lots of ways to go about that. For another, he got his messages mixed up - altamont 2012-06-19 23:58:30 (50 views)

When did he say that he despised bourgeoise Democrats? - nomad 2012-06-20 00:09:27 (37 views)

taking your base for granted is a product of polarization - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-06-19 20:00:53 (32 views)

Completely ignores the grassroots aspect of the Tea Party, which was spawned as a backlash to... - buzz 2012-06-19 17:04:45 (90 views)

The Tea Party was spawned as a backlash to Obama winning the election, and more than a little of - BackseatGM 2012-06-19 18:51:59 (49 views)

Damn you're a moron. - gsw_hoops 2012-06-20 14:01:41 (35 views)

Coming from you that's the ultimate compliment. Words cannot describe how much I would NOT want you - BackseatGM 2012-06-20 14:08:57 (37 views)

Kochs supplied the funding, and Fox eagerly supplied the media hype - nomad 2012-06-19 19:37:03 (48 views)

the Tealiban was well documented fake; Koch Bros. trojan horse - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-06-19 18:26:03 (43 views)

It is true that the majority of Americans supported public option for healthcare. - Thelonious Dunk 2012-06-19 17:53:39 (45 views)

LOL. - Earl j. Slick 2012-06-19 17:35:55 (77 views)

The ones in the House, and the ones who dominate liberal media outlets - buzz 2012-06-19 17:58:07 (52 views)

There are maybe 15 liberals in Congress and the media is corporate owned. - Earl j. Slick 2012-06-19 18:27:02 (57 views)

I am aware that liberals are irrelevant, they just don't seem to understand that - buzz 2012-06-20 21:47:31 (32 views)

I wasn't saying they are irrelevant, I was saying they didn't do what you said they did. - Earl j. Slick 2012-06-21 07:57:12 (30 views)

sure, the only question was, given it was impossible at this time for the liberals to get their bill - DC Warrior 2012-06-20 06:11:14 (37 views)

I think something was better than nothing, but - Earl j. Slick 2012-06-20 07:37:30 (44 views)

People are foolish if they think a Republican or two will break ranks on anything. - Dick Nikon 2012-06-20 01:20:36 (45 views)

and therefore is it a good idea for the left to hold out votes on principle - DC Warrior 2012-06-20 06:09:28 (39 views)

It's a good idea to play to win rather than expect to be able any compromise. - Earl j. Slick 2012-06-20 08:02:19 (37 views)

That's just the wrong attitude to have, and pretty short sighted. - Captain Hindsight 2012-06-20 13:29:33 (35 views)

It's not my attitude, just an assessment of what's left of the options. - Earl j. Slick 2012-06-20 17:35:51 (29 views)

When those with whom you seek compromise repeatedly blow you off, what then? - nomad 2012-06-20 14:13:29 (29 views)

Try a different approach. Compromise totally breaks down when both sides - Captain Hindsight 2012-06-20 14:38:57 (35 views)

Or even when only one side refuses to play ball - nomad 2012-06-20 15:05:24 (27 views)

It's a tough position to be in. - Captain Hindsight 2012-06-20 15:08:10 (35 views)

Good summary. - Earl j. Slick 2012-06-19 15:51:51 (55 views)

It's not a left-right thing. If the Dems in Congress had passed the health care in Sept - DC Warrior 2012-06-19 15:15:59 (67 views)

the day of passage meant about nothing - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-06-19 18:29:47 (35 views)

delay always means something - DC Warrior 2012-06-20 06:08:17 (34 views)

I just googled it for the date and Obama sign it in March 2010. Are you saying the same bill was - BackseatGM 2012-06-19 16:28:27 (48 views)

I'm surprised no one caught this and dinged me for it - - DC Warrior 2012-06-20 06:05:51 (37 views)

if 70% of eligible Americans ever turned up at the polls politics as we know it would cease to exist - Max 2012-06-19 14:25:08 (36 views)

Right on. - nomad 2012-06-19 14:24:35 (34 views)

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