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Most people have no idea what they mean by conservative or liberal
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Posted by thizness on 2012-06-19 13:53:08

In Reply to: That may be a technically accurate term but most people will misunderstand posted by DC Warrior on 2012-06-19 13:43:15

And I'm not even saying that they need to adhere to the terms' classical definitions. Basically the words "liberal" and "conservative" delimit voting blocks which align themselves according mainly to region, identity, and perhaps the wooliest vestiges of political ideology.

As far as conservatives (as one understands them to be) being the real neoliberals, I'd just say that the entire visible spectrum of American politics has been completely won over by neoliberalism.

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One day Americans are going to look back at prison like we look back at slavery today. - live 2012-06-19 12:46:13 (110 views)

There are a lot of people out there in favor of Jail reform, and the topic is being discussesd - Captain Hindsight 2012-06-20 13:40:41 (52 views)

I think your subject line is spot on but why do you say "even the best among us don't care"? You - BackseatGM 2012-06-19 21:32:59 (55 views)

I care, we care, but we're not doing anything about it. - live 2012-06-20 10:53:56 (33 views)

the second anyone touches the issue, it has to be - we need to get tough on criminals - DC Warrior 2012-06-20 11:16:24 (56 views)

California never recovered from Rose Bird - Dick Nikon 2012-06-20 13:39:57 (29 views)

well..still don't care enough - Fred 2012-06-20 02:14:58 (27 views)

more - Krieger 2012-06-19 15:47:59 (41 views)

Outstanding summary lecture on the subject by the leading scholar on the new penality - thizness 2012-06-19 20:19:51 (39 views)

More. - live 2012-06-19 15:13:28 (36 views)

Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome - playmaker 2012-06-19 14:02:38 (46 views)

The actual book... - playmaker 2012-06-19 14:03:57 (38 views)

plus, what is it that actually stops people from doing crime? - DC Warrior 2012-06-19 13:41:48 (42 views)

It's called teh broken-windows theory. Its a good idea to clean up the city and make it look nice - Captain Hindsight 2012-06-20 13:45:00 (34 views)

Re: financial crimes. I'm a big believer in public shaming. - nomad 2012-06-19 14:23:21 (47 views)

I think you have to find ways to remove the "everybody does it" - DC Warrior 2012-06-19 15:17:34 (48 views)

Yes. - nomad 2012-06-19 15:28:07 (35 views)

+1 - Max 2012-06-19 13:21:25 (61 views)

Agree 100%. - altamont 2012-06-19 13:13:19 (83 views)

I spent 5 days in a military prison - it was hell. - Fred 2012-06-20 02:13:29 (26 views)

Agree with your main point, but the expansion of the carceral complex in this country - thizness 2012-06-19 13:10:42 (80 views)

neoliberal leviathan? I thought it was law and order Republicans - DC Warrior 2012-06-19 13:35:03 (58 views)

By neoliberal I don't mean something like left liberal - thizness 2012-06-19 13:39:00 (63 views)

neoliberal is often used to describe "free trade" of the labor cost advantage type - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-06-19 18:33:44 (32 views)

That may be a technically accurate term but most people will misunderstand - DC Warrior 2012-06-19 13:43:15 (56 views)

Most people have no idea what they mean by conservative or liberal - thizness 2012-06-19 13:53:08 (59 views)

Those terms have no meaning at all any more. - Earl j. Slick 2012-06-19 16:08:19 (52 views)

It's a reference to ideas from different worlds (duality in meaning). Politics/State vs. Economics. - Fred 2012-06-20 02:25:00 (26 views)

You're such a libservative. Or is it consiberal? - nomad 2012-06-19 16:25:12 (39 views)

I'm beginning to embrace fuckallofthemism - Earl j. Slick 2012-06-19 17:36:59 (31 views)

Put. Your. Bentham. On. Your. Head. Step. Away. From. The. Foucault. - altamont 2012-06-19 13:14:33 (37 views)

Ha- quite the opposite in fact - thizness 2012-06-19 13:21:57 (62 views)

The first page of The Scarlet Letter pretty much nails it, imo. - altamont 2012-06-19 13:26:18 (78 views)

Puritanical conceptions of good and evil, of the need for expiation - thizness 2012-06-19 13:36:14 (49 views)

It does seem that the concept of rehabilitation has been abandoned - nomad 2012-06-19 13:53:29 (51 views)

Absolutely. When you look at the political rhetoric of the 1980s - thizness 2012-06-19 14:07:06 (52 views)

Agree. And that's some horrible stuff in that article. Don't read with lunch. - nomad 2012-06-19 12:58:50 (38 views)

Which makes me seem callous... but I will add: - nomad 2012-06-19 13:07:18 (53 views)

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