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I hear what you are saying, but I think that is significant
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Posted by buzz on 2012-04-24 20:53:40

In Reply to: What's the point of posting this? posted by live on 2012-04-24 13:37:43

Let's say we are talking about 3,000 April days or so, even if the info on many of them is somewhat suspect.

Even taken by itself, it is significant. And it is definitely not by itself. The evidence is beyond overwhelming that (a) this is almost certainly what is happening, and (b) that the level of impending climate change is increasingly appearing to be beyond what even the most conservative estimates have predicted.

I realize Shik is on a rampage, but it is well past time to stop marginalizing, obfuscating, debating whether or not debating whether or not this is almost certainly a major future challenge for us.

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First crazy midwest temps in March, now western April records. Hottest April day in the US ever... - shikantaza 2012-04-24 13:16:23 (88 views)

I just read through this thread and I'm not sure why you're being hit with so much grief. I think - BackseatGM 2012-04-24 20:47:22 (73 views)

seriously... my commentary was pretty bland, and didn't go beyond facts - shikantaza 2012-04-24 21:26:21 (81 views)

the point is, this is what the RW does. - DC Warrior 2012-04-25 06:05:20 (69 views)

You didn't prove anthropogenic climate change, try again - nomad 2012-04-24 22:42:06 (70 views)

no reason, other than the RW loves to drop hints that look exactly like Shik's OP - DC Warrior 2012-04-25 07:54:13 (53 views)

I hate debating the optics of this when we're just a few wankers on a politics board... - shikantaza: cavs fan 2012-04-25 11:08:53 (60 views)

yeah but there are a few conservative wankers here too - DC Warrior 2012-04-25 12:08:28 (63 views)

What's the point of posting this? - live 2012-04-24 13:37:43 (110 views)

It has been a few years of abnormal weather..especially this year. - rem rehab 2012-04-25 17:53:09 (63 views)

I hear what you are saying, but I think that is significant - buzz 2012-04-24 20:53:40 (88 views)

He has an agenda that he's desperately pushing. If there - gsw_hoops 2012-04-24 14:38:57 (104 views)

Ironic. - Earl j. Slick 2012-04-24 19:14:32 (56 views)

lol yes - Krieger 2012-04-24 19:43:17 (91 views)

Yes. - Earl j. Slick 2012-04-24 21:35:03 (79 views)

The funny thing is if there was a record cold wave, you WOULD post about it - Flashfire 2012-04-24 14:57:31 (74 views)

Statistical noise means unexplained variation. Quite simply, this variation is explainable... - shikantaza 2012-04-24 14:00:54 (90 views)

It doesn't mean anything in isolated spurts, no. - live 2012-04-24 14:02:35 (83 views)

who's asking you to consider this in isolation? is that how you would read the article? - shikantaza 2012-04-24 14:06:21 (89 views)

The article doesn't mention any trends, nor does your headline - live 2012-04-24 14:08:45 (90 views)

just so I know where you stand... a month where heat records were broken - shikantaza 2012-04-24 14:17:46 (88 views)

a month? no. Not at all. - DC Warrior 2012-04-24 14:18:45 (69 views)

not even when considered in the context of the amount of knowledge the usual politics board poster - shikantaza 2012-04-24 14:23:31 (87 views)

because the other side makes posts like this, asking you to look in a vacuum - DC Warrior 2012-04-24 15:45:56 (74 views)

that's not the issue ben is raising... he's asking what's the point of ever discussing individual - shikantaza 2012-04-24 16:02:48 (79 views)

yes, but I am independently questioning the wisdom of posting individual months - DC Warrior 2012-04-24 16:14:53 (72 views)

Geez, does he have to provide links to the last decade's worth of extreme events for the extreme - BackseatGM 2012-04-24 20:32:52 (67 views)

it's not exactly the same thing. posting that it snowed a lot in DC... - shikantaza 2012-04-24 16:22:18 (75 views)

that's not how it plays in public. Also the deniers throw around the medieval warm period - DC Warrior 2012-04-25 06:01:34 (62 views)

Lack of context does enhance deception, true. Worst thing about the MWP meme, though, is that it was - nomad 2012-04-25 10:03:03 (71 views)

and underdog just did it a couple of days ago - DC Warrior 2012-04-25 12:10:02 (59 views)

Exactly. There aren't extreme cold records being broken left and right. - Dick Nikon 2012-04-24 16:32:26 (73 views)

No - does not mean anything. - live 2012-04-24 14:32:38 (68 views)

anyway... this is too much effort to get basically nothing out of you... - shikantaza 2012-04-24 14:52:11 (83 views)

i think he found it too ridiculous a discussion to stay in - dude 2012-04-24 15:23:33 (106 views)

it's not the first time man - Krieger 2012-04-24 19:49:42 (80 views)

LOL - shikantaza 2012-04-24 20:25:48 (60 views)

Pointing out that heat records are being broken 35x faster than cold records is not the same thing - shikantaza 2012-04-24 15:57:28 (89 views)

agree that it is true (as live said he does as well) - dude 2012-04-24 16:03:05 (85 views)

point by point - shikantaza 2012-04-24 16:16:34 (83 views)

+1 - Shallow Hal 2012-04-24 15:53:24 (57 views)

I think he's just bored and wanted to have a logic sword fight with you - playmaker 2012-04-24 15:18:53 (81 views)

please express why that is the case - shikantaza 2012-04-24 14:33:45 (56 views)

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