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All we've heard thus far is that Martin confronted him at his vehicle
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Posted by gsw_hoops on 2012-04-12 17:39:59

In Reply to: you can't assume that. Zimmerman was simply losing the fight at that point. posted by DC Warrior on 2012-04-12 15:27:45

Asked him if he has a problem. Zimmerman said no, and Martin said, "well, you do now", and popped him in the face. Then, threw him down on the sidewalk and bashed his head a few times. Zimmerman somehow got to the grass, but Martin got on top of him and Zimmerman yelled for help. I'm not aware of any explanation that describes what happened after that.

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Law guys: just curious to know why they didn't try Zimmer on 1st degree? - mistatwo mayn 2012-04-11 18:31:48 (87 views)

I have a suspicion they charged one degree higher than they thought they could actually get - DC Warrior 2012-04-12 07:24:01 (73 views)

Pretty much. If he has a good lawyer who is convinced that - gsw_hoops 2012-04-12 14:07:48 (98 views)

Fuck you. - Earl j. Slick 2012-04-14 10:21:25 (48 views)

Way to further prove what a fucking retard you are - Flashfire 2012-04-12 19:15:09 (66 views)

jury will have the option to convict on a lesser charge - Max 2012-04-12 18:32:56 (59 views)

lol - Krieger 2012-04-12 18:11:06 (125 views)

lol - extremely developed tentacles 2012-04-12 17:36:47 (52 views)

lol - dude 2012-04-12 16:09:21 (45 views)

Would be very difficult to prove that he followed the kid with the intent to eventually kill him. - Thelonious Dunk 2012-04-12 03:15:33 (47 views)

having a gun doesn't prove premeditation... they would have to prove that he was chasing him down - shikantaza 2012-04-11 21:53:17 (75 views)

is it fact there's two scuffles? One where TM bloodies him? then Zimmer - mistatwo mayn 2012-04-11 22:32:58 (63 views)

Zimmerman was back at his car. Martin came back and - gsw_hoops 2012-04-12 06:47:51 (71 views)

As in, I believe the white guy, not the dead black guy. - Earl j. Slick 2012-04-14 10:22:14 (45 views)

Yeah, it's all Martin's fault. Gotcha. - Flashfire 2012-04-12 08:22:41 (53 views)

The point is, Zimmerman didn't intend to kill anyone, and - gsw_hoops 2012-04-12 10:46:19 (68 views)

He trailed the unarmed teen for some distance and time...with a loaded gun., - rem rehab 2012-04-12 13:20:29 (71 views)

Great post! - gswinsider 2012-04-12 14:44:21 (72 views)

Jeez, you're a fucking idiot no matter what forum you're on. - gsw_hoops 2012-04-12 17:35:55 (49 views)

Projecting again? - Flashfire 2012-04-12 18:26:11 (36 views)

F-O-C-U-S. He's not being charged with following someone while - gsw_hoops 2012-04-12 13:55:16 (62 views)

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN WAS A HELPLESS VICTIM! - Flashfire 2012-04-12 15:29:14 (43 views)

how did you determine the "fact pattern" you're presenting? - Max 2012-04-12 11:21:43 (46 views)

Witness has Martin on top of Zimmerman. Zimmerman was treated for injuries - gsw_hoops 2012-04-12 14:00:58 (53 views)

you don't know the part about Martin coming back to Zimmerman - Max 2012-04-12 15:34:10 (57 views)

All we have are the call to 9-1-1, eye witnesses, and Zimmerman's testimony. - gsw_hoops 2012-04-12 17:42:24 (47 views)

you can't assume that. Zimmerman was simply losing the fight at that point. - DC Warrior 2012-04-12 15:27:45 (59 views)

All we've heard thus far is that Martin confronted him at his vehicle - gsw_hoops 2012-04-12 17:39:59 (53 views)

From some third-party source, no doubt - Flashfire 2012-04-12 12:39:32 (43 views)

no... but if there's one scuffle that prompted the shooting then the shooting can't be premeditated - shikantaza 2012-04-11 23:02:22 (58 views)

It doesn't fit the criteria. And he had the gun before any conflict. They made the right call. - BackseatGM 2012-04-11 20:45:23 (55 views)

1st Degree is only chargeable by Grand Jury, irrc. - altamont 2012-04-11 19:11:47 (49 views)

typically needs premeditation, or committing rape/robbery/kidnaping - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-04-11 19:05:43 (71 views)

Re: typically needs premeditation, or committing rape/robbery/kidnaping - Sylvester 2012-04-12 23:13:19 (46 views)

was that what he did or did he already have it? - Krieger 2012-04-11 18:46:53 (136 views)

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