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Posted by gsw_hoops on 2012-04-02 17:01:43

In Reply to: business people take the acela from DC to NY posted by DC Warrior on 2012-04-02 16:27:25

CalTrain and buses and an adequate freeway system (that gets less adequate the more commuter lanes they add).

Why do we really need fast trains again?

Oh yeah, cuz other countries have 'em and we have to look cool too whether it makes sense or not.

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CA High speed rail, fail. - Doc 2012-04-02 12:49:49 (97 views)

you go to Europe or Japan, and you see those systems thriving; US epic fail at same thing - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-04-02 22:59:30 (44 views)

More like Republican fail... it's obviously something that needs to happen if... - buzz 2012-04-02 17:15:44 (108 views)

why do you suppose that Republicans are so against rail, anyway? - DC Warrior 2012-04-03 15:02:56 (63 views)

Yes... not exactly advocates of smart growth - buzz 2012-04-03 16:46:04 (54 views)

More rail means less reliance overall on oil, and less profit for Big Oil. - Flashfire 2012-04-03 16:07:32 (42 views)

this is partly true, but IIRC, the GOP did deep think in the 90s - DC Warrior 2012-04-04 08:04:25 (54 views)

how boring you are dude - Doc 2012-04-02 18:18:59 (92 views)

the "idiot" stuff rings very hollow and peculiar;it's a solidly proven method - CARTIERFROHAWK 2012-04-02 23:01:50 (49 views)

HSR is a must for California but I question where they're trying to begin it - Flashfire 2012-04-02 19:26:25 (41 views)

How does Mitt's dick taste? - buzz 2012-04-02 19:11:09 (74 views)

Id be fine wiping out 50% of state pensions to fund the full project - Hoser 2012-04-02 13:04:17 (77 views)

Silly. - gribble the mispost master 2012-04-02 21:20:03 (57 views)

so sayeth the state government worker with a fat pension - Doc 2012-04-02 22:36:15 (58 views)

You mean the guy who chose to be underpaid his entire career - gribble the mispost master 2012-04-02 23:22:54 (56 views)

How about they just take it out of your 401k? - buzz 2012-04-02 17:10:04 (49 views)

Sure thing, since there is $0 in - Hoser 2012-04-02 17:43:14 (63 views)

"As would nearly all Californians"-really? - Doc 2012-04-02 13:46:11 (86 views)

Like all the jobs that have come from reduced regulation and lower taxes? - Hoser 2012-04-02 15:17:25 (68 views)

btw....CA unemployment still 10+%.....take out a couple of silicon valley industries and its 11+% - Doc 2012-04-02 15:46:53 (69 views)

You can blame deregulation of the financial industry for that - Hoser 2012-04-02 17:42:27 (55 views)

when were there regulations cut and taxes lowered in CA? - Doc 2012-04-02 15:39:49 (46 views)

Some people would ride it once out of curiosity, or maybe - gsw_hoops 2012-04-02 15:00:59 (77 views)

I wouldn't ride it for business (work pays for that). for myself? - Heath 2012-04-02 15:59:04 (72 views)

business people take the acela from DC to NY - DC Warrior 2012-04-02 16:27:25 (67 views)

BART takes us many places in the Bay Area, and then there's - gsw_hoops 2012-04-02 17:01:43 (63 views)

Have you ever even been on a high speed rail before? - Hoser 2012-04-02 17:45:00 (64 views)

What does my experience (or lack thereof) have to do with - gsw_hoops 2012-04-02 17:52:50 (65 views)

Because projects like this put people to work. Working people pay taxes and buy stuff - gribble the mispost master 2012-04-02 21:16:28 (78 views)

Because you are an idiot - Hoser 2012-04-02 19:51:04 (62 views)

Get rid of roads and parks - they don't turn a profit. - gribble the mispost master 2012-04-02 21:17:47 (58 views)

apparently the coolness factor would overwhelm you into wanting to ride it every day? - Doc 2012-04-02 18:21:51 (55 views)

Damn, I'll find me a job somewhere where this train goes! - gsw_hoops 2012-04-02 19:03:28 (53 views)

Irony: you would have benefited from this when you used to drive 100+ miles each way to work - Flashfire 2012-04-02 19:29:45 (70 views)

but it will turn a profit by 2057! - Doc 2012-04-02 15:41:29 (64 views)

you know it took almost 50 years to get the bay bridge built? - Chicken 2012-04-04 03:13:03 (36 views)

Oh well then. That seals it. Get the shovels and ribbons! - gsw_hoops 2012-04-02 17:13:35 (49 views)

can I see the business plan for I-5? When is that projected to turn a profit - DC Warrior 2012-04-02 16:28:14 (75 views)

KO - buzz 2012-04-03 13:43:28 (38 views)

go talk to Jerry Brown...he is the one championing HSR whilst cutting it down - Doc 2012-04-02 18:16:41 (74 views)

Why should I talk to Brown? YOU came up with the snark about profit and I called you on it - DC Warrior 2012-04-03 06:27:51 (55 views)

So is the Interstate Highway System a boondoggle? - nomad 2012-04-02 20:33:16 (54 views)

thats an idiot comparison that isnt worth my time to discuss - Doc 2012-04-02 22:34:22 (67 views)

Wtf, lol. So faster roads can't be compared to faster trains? No wonder you're so busy - nomad 2012-04-03 13:13:39 (56 views)

except it isn't free to use - don't we pay taxes on gas to help keep up the roads? - gribble the mispost master 2012-04-03 14:17:44 (47 views)

Thought about writing "free" but wth. - nomad 2012-04-03 16:17:58 (40 views)

you are still missing the point. There are plenty of interstates now, and we still build new ones - DC Warrior 2012-04-03 06:29:22 (55 views)

Republicans don't "do" externalities lol - live 2012-04-02 17:49:41 (47 views)

Because Doc is an idiot - Hoser 2012-04-02 17:43:55 (60 views)

linking up Caltrain and Metrolink seems like a good idea though - Max 2012-04-02 17:20:20 (65 views)

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