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I still think they have a case in framing him as the instigator.
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Posted by Thelonious Dunk on 2012-03-26 23:43:18

In Reply to: Still dunno about that, either posted by buzz on 2012-03-26 21:56:33

There is a fine line between approaching someone while carrying a gun and knowing that you're going to use it if you're in serious danger of losing your life, versus knowing that you are going to use it if you get into a fist fight. The latter of which I do not think this Stand Your Ground law can be a defense for.

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So now Trayvon Martin beat the shit out of Zimmerman... - Hoser 2012-03-26 17:14:00 (162 views)

"Do you have a problem!? Well, you got a problem now!" - I am not Joe Lacob 2012-03-27 07:55:04 (71 views)

Yeah, I think that when you actively are the pursuer, you kinda lose your self defense case. - Thelonious Dunk 2012-03-26 21:08:37 (70 views)

It doesn't matter, as many of us have said from the start, who threw the first punch - altamont 2012-03-26 20:48:40 (92 views)

I think it would matter greatly to a jury trying to measure the guy's intent - buzz 2012-03-26 21:31:19 (70 views)

I agree with the last part. If that's Zimmy screaming for help his self defense claim is supported. - BackseatGM 2012-03-26 21:44:50 (61 views)

Still dunno about that, either - buzz 2012-03-26 21:56:33 (65 views)

I still think they have a case in framing him as the instigator. - Thelonious Dunk 2012-03-26 23:43:18 (62 views)

He told cops at the scene that Martin went for his gun while kicking his ass - buzz 2012-03-27 00:03:40 (81 views)

hmm, I didn't hear that. - Thelonious Dunk 2012-03-27 00:39:26 (71 views)

Hopefully so - buzz 2012-03-27 00:42:06 (37 views)

I think that is exactly what happened - buzz 2012-03-26 19:32:01 (101 views)

One reason I think this could be true... - playmaker 2012-03-26 20:06:37 (76 views)

Zimmerman outweighed the kid by like 70 lbs. - The Big Rebounder 2012-03-26 19:13:43 (46 views)

Some of you guys are so sheltered, lol - buzz 2012-03-26 19:28:00 (112 views)

lulz - Carla Beefcurtain (Warriors Superfan since 1984) 2012-03-26 20:58:54 (36 views)

Things you never hear - buzz 2012-03-26 21:03:35 (94 views)

I'll accept that the guy's obese but if 5'9 is a midget in your mind then there's a whole lot of us - BackseatGM 2012-03-26 21:49:05 (66 views)

Seriously though, right? - Carla Beefcurtain (Warriors Superfan since 1984) 2012-03-26 21:24:07 (78 views)

There's a pretty healthy medium you guys seem hellbent on not acknowledging here. - I am not Joe Lacob 2012-03-27 08:17:54 (58 views)

You realize all of that is being wildly disputed as of about 24 hours ago. - Carla Beefcurtain (Warriors Superfan since 1984) 2012-03-27 08:42:01 (48 views)

I mean, disputing is fine, but how can you dispute this? - I am not Joe Lacob 2012-03-27 09:59:06 (65 views)

Seriously? - Carla Beefcurtain (Warriors Superfan since 1984) 2012-03-27 10:47:04 (45 views)

i love the irony of this thread....i respect its ridiculousness - Doc 2012-03-26 22:06:02 (82 views)

Dude, I said nothing like that, lol. - Carla Beefcurtain (Warriors Superfan since 1984) 2012-03-26 22:41:40 (68 views)

I am, lol - buzz 2012-03-26 22:47:39 (68 views)

I don't think Carla and I are making this a big race thing - buzz 2012-03-26 22:14:55 (65 views)

if it turns out that the incident was at or near zimmermans car, there is no arrest - Doc 2012-03-26 22:20:39 (64 views)

There will be an arrest at this point - buzz 2012-03-26 22:28:40 (62 views)

i think folks overreached.....the leaks of the evidence gathered smells like a pre-emption - Doc 2012-03-26 22:29:46 (61 views)

My dad likes to tell a story about visiting his brother at work - buzz 2012-03-26 22:45:45 (65 views)

Well, they are in CYA mode too - buzz 2012-03-26 22:38:09 (48 views)

Dude provoked a fight, got his ass handed to him, so he shot him - Hoser 2012-03-26 21:24:01 (67 views)

I don't think he provoked a fight at all, I think he profiled and harassed the kid - buzz 2012-03-26 22:05:28 (65 views)

So if someone follows you, then yes out of their car, what you think is going down? - Hoser 2012-03-26 22:55:54 (62 views)

I'm not black, but some fat HOA cop in a gated community in Florida? - buzz 2012-03-26 23:09:39 (69 views)

This same fat nerd has felony battery on an officer and 2 domestic violence charges on his record. - I am not Joe Lacob 2012-03-27 12:16:29 (47 views)

Felony battery was probably shoving the cop that was arresting his friend - buzz 2012-03-27 13:47:47 (35 views)

yup. - Doc 2012-03-26 22:06:43 (34 views)

provoked a fight by doing his rent a cop job, then getting beat up in front of his own car? - Doc 2012-03-26 21:55:55 (59 views)

His job? What the fuck are you talking about? - Hoser 2012-03-26 22:54:02 (53 views)

FWIW, 6'3" 140 lbs from Miami Gardens vs 5'9" 250 lbs from Manassas, VA and Sanford, FL - buzz 2012-03-26 19:55:05 (76 views)

Land a punch? In a street fight? Shee-it. The Marquis of Queensbury's rules don't apply. - Cohan sold the Dubz! 2012-03-27 15:18:37 (31 views)

If I had to choose to fight one of a 6'3, 140lb black teenager or a 5'9, 250 lb twentysomething - BackseatGM 2012-03-26 21:36:00 (70 views)

OK, I'll be the guy over here with Krazy Glue, ready to put your old ass back together ;-) - buzz 2012-03-26 22:19:36 (35 views)

Oops, just saw this after posting above... - playmaker 2012-03-26 20:07:46 (40 views)

btw...about the racist thing...who claimed there was racist things being said? the girlfriend? - Doc 2012-03-26 18:10:03 (81 views)

The guy's on tape saying "coons" and singled out black people. C'mon. - Flashfire 2012-03-26 18:27:52 (54 views)

isnt the dude hispanic? dude ive seen all this stuff but havent read squat about it till today - Doc 2012-03-26 18:36:04 (61 views)

He sure looks like it but "George Zimmerman" isn't a very Hispanic name to me. - Flashfire 2012-03-26 18:40:21 (40 views)

Dad is white, Mom is latina - The Big Rebounder 2012-03-26 19:12:59 (37 views)

Peruvian. I have known several Peruvians. - Thelonious Dunk 2012-03-26 21:15:13 (64 views)

Dad must have some real poor genes - Flashfire 2012-03-26 20:23:54 (34 views)

this is true... - Doc 2012-03-26 18:44:29 (45 views)

its tragic all the way around, but you are a mess with your rationale - Doc 2012-03-26 18:08:08 (76 views)

You are a gun nut, your opinion on this is biased - Hoser 2012-03-26 21:22:14 (42 views)

riddle me this..... - Doc 2012-03-26 21:54:19 (56 views)

Well, we do hear Zimmerman get out of his car and chase the kid on foot. - I am not Joe Lacob 2012-03-27 17:09:30 (31 views)

He was following someone... - Hoser 2012-03-26 22:52:18 (42 views)

you take the word of Zimmerman without question? Why? - SHAUNsense 2012-03-26 18:45:58 (63 views)

police evidence and witnesses suggest self defense...all i said is a manslaughter charge is unlikely - Doc 2012-03-26 19:03:43 (68 views)

he is also the one who inatigated the confrontation - SHAUNsense 2012-03-26 19:39:58 (61 views)

didnt this happen near Zimmermans car? that seems to suggest the kid followed zimmerman? - Doc 2012-03-26 20:09:45 (47 views)

I dont know if there was new evidience but the 911 written transcript of the convo between Zimmerman - WHAT? 2012-03-26 22:21:33 (44 views)

the new evidence appears to be from the multiple witnesses - Doc 2012-03-26 22:26:09 (44 views)

I'm just catching up on reports but I haven't seen anything that said witnesses saw Martin beating - WHAT? 2012-03-26 22:41:42 (49 views)

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