or even try to? You have a viewpoint which you can express, I have one too. I thought we were participating in a discussion in the differences between those two positions.

Then you tell me I am spewing lies, that I am ignorant, and that I was way out of line in offering to discuss religious values. Who was trying to suppress who?

We have differing points of view. You were clearly not reading what I was trying to say. Maybe I was doing the same. Want to try again, this time without the vitriol?