Well if we make the West. Conf. Finals doesn't that mean we have a chance to make the Finals. If you said the West is so strong we'll be very lucky to get out of the 1st round that is one thing. You have Spurs, Clips and Thunder as horses and we'll probably play one of them in the 1st round. So if we get past the 1st round i would almost by default say we are contenders and esp. if we make WCF.